Correction:
"I was totally UNaware of any subterfuge". Makes more sense that way, I believe. Sometimes our corrections only led to more goofs. That's why we had to allow for:
Errata Data Tipped In----------(love how that sounds!)
CoCo Corrected!
can you imagine jesus christ teaching that his message was not intended for the general public?
this is exactly what the watchtower society had to say concerning the information contained in the "lamp" book!
while jesus wanted all to hear the "true gospel" the watchtower society saturates its organization in "secret" books and information.
Correction:
"I was totally UNaware of any subterfuge". Makes more sense that way, I believe. Sometimes our corrections only led to more goofs. That's why we had to allow for:
Errata Data Tipped In----------(love how that sounds!)
CoCo Corrected!
can you imagine jesus christ teaching that his message was not intended for the general public?
this is exactly what the watchtower society had to say concerning the information contained in the "lamp" book!
while jesus wanted all to hear the "true gospel" the watchtower society saturates its organization in "secret" books and information.
Hello Atlantis,
Once again, I thank you for this wonderful thread and its special meaning to me. Yes, I am aware of JOHNNY---only one of many cases of alleged ignorance or coincidence. The WT has taken their deceitful manipulations to a higher level of "art-form". And then, they publicly castigate those who see through their blatant lies. A friend was recently DFd for not backing down on his insistence that there is something going on "behind the scenes", i.e., textually and pictorially in WT publications.
My work at Bethel was many years ago; I was a wordsmith-technician whose innocence and trust had not yet been sullied. I was totally aware of any subterfuge. Illustrations at that time were most primitive, barely conveying anything superlative in a spiritual sense. No wonder they began "borrowing" sophisticated, secular art. It has surely put the WT on the map.
Till the next time,
Compound-Complex
can you imagine jesus christ teaching that his message was not intended for the general public?
this is exactly what the watchtower society had to say concerning the information contained in the "lamp" book!
while jesus wanted all to hear the "true gospel" the watchtower society saturates its organization in "secret" books and information.
Thanx Atlantis!
Re the art work, such as it was in those days: there are two errors in drawing that I remember. Can you find them?
1) the backside of a maned lion, by which a little girl is standing, is disproportionately rendered.
2) A beardless Jesus is reading from the scrolls to the Jews in the synagogue. Notice missing railing either on the podium or lectern.
At Bethel I made corrections in various publications but had nothing to do with this book. They may have corrected what I have pointed out to you, but in the first printing the errors were there, as I recall.
Remembering more,
Compound-Complex
dear friends,.
despite our noble intentions and the hope that we'll behave ourselves, we are downright human.
i just saw beaches again last night (bought the used tape for four bucks) and was reminded how that evil, green-eyed monster can destroy the best of relationships.
Dear Friends,
Thanx very much for all your comments; they are much appreciated!
jgnat: I agree that somehow "victim" was not a totally correct or adequate word choice. The "boomerang effect" says it all. I'm still trying to find a word that better suggests the true outcome of jealousy gone amok. Thank you.
Compound-Complex
it was about marriage.
personally, i think woman should be equals in a relationship, not the man as absolute ruler that listen's to his subject when it pleases him.
it just irritates me that women will never be considered truly equal in jws.
Dear Fellow Weekly-Perusers of the WT,
Would any of us even give it a second look if it were not being properly conducted here at JWD by an eminently qualified...WOMAN! I can deal with the offense it puts off because it is sharply and dextrously examined and evaluated, then we get to write what some at the KH wish they could say but, alas, cannot! Print what you will, but, please, let us have our say! Open discussion. Re the content, someone alluded in "Comments You Will Not Hear" that sometimes non JWs are better behaved. I know whereof I speak. Just leave the bride et al alone to plan and do as they please! PLEASE! No, I'm not offended, no, NOT AT ALL! And no rice and no toasting e ad infinitum e ad nauseum....
CoCo Constrained
i'm doing my third uni unit in a 24-unit bachelors degree (economics).
the exam is tonight, and i'm confident i'm going to fail.
this isn't nerves or false modesty, i just know i haven't covered the material, and haven't consolidated those parts i did cover.
Dear Sorrowful Sass,
Oh how I can relate. How words jump out at us yank our collective chain. I was sort of where you were 40 years ago. Had to choose between finishing my studies at the Conservatory or baptism/pioneering. I chose the latter; I have no regrets because I gained many good things. But now, all these years later, I am contacted by the school that I left in the dust and want to go back and finish. Don't know if I could. A huge risk. No money. You see, at the end of my first year there, I knew I was off to Dubland so I just went downhill in my studies. Why bother---Armageddon's around the...! And I too did something big for my family and I was mostly invisible during the festivities. I totally understand burn-out, dear Sass, and my youth and energy are mostly gone now. But if you love and you care and you give---even if only in SMALL amounts because you're exhausted---then what more is there? I can't work much any more and hardly sleep---that's why I'm here talking with you! And I've "met" Hambeak, and Sparky, and Nina........I love my friends from the KH, but for the most part, they're no longer part of my life. Even if you seem to be in a perpetual fog, it will lift. Give love freely and unstintingly and good people will come out of the woodwork and be your new source of comfort. I feel what I've said is more than philosophic.... Blessings and love and peace.
CoCo
i got a phone call from a person that i gave my phone # to.
and this person said that gays are not welcome here and this is not what this board was really about.
i told them that this is only one part of the crap that the wts did to people and that we are people too.
Dear Hambeak-----
You cheered me up when I was down. As we discussed, the Society says only evil comes from from such forums. When I see all these comments---'specially Sparky's---it reminds me when a fellow teacher libelled me, a friend like Sparky tore that person to pieces and settled the matter before I even knew what was happening! And it was big in the community. I choose not to sue. Suffice it to say, to this day "Calamity Jane" is still the tops with me. It was hard enough being on the straight and narrow with the troof, but to be forced and beaten into the shape of a stereotypical heterosexual male is intolerable. I know what love is and I know what it ain't. And so do MOST here! Everything you said, Decki, I know is true. You go girl! Are you still spittin' nails? I have friends like you that got me through the last 5 years of hell, where I lost everything except my kids and real friends. Now I'm recovering because this forum has renewed my will to live. Hambeak--you're my newest best friend!
The other Sparky
here's one of a series that twig my eye...a little vignette of an elders lovingly administering his duties.
elders, former elders, did you ever serve an anointed in the nursing home?
how were you received?
Greetings jgnat,
Re my two bouts with the Memorial:
One year I had the flu and the elders came to my home and went over the Memorial texts with me.
More recently, an elder spotted me and "suggested" it would be best if I leave as my presence could be disruptive to ONE other person in attendance. I was crushed and went home in tears. A prominent Bethel brother heard of it and was enraged. He said that the "disrupted" one should have left and I stay.
I will never go again where they say NO to the body of Christ.
Am I in or am I out?---OUT!
Compound-Complex
latitudinarian, a. liberal in one's views; permitting free thought, especially in religious matters; very tolerant of the differing opinions of others; as, "latitudinarian" opinions or doctrines.
[emphasis added].
dear friends of liberal persuasion,.
"Free thought, especially in RELIGIOUS matters...."
Freedom of thought in religion---unheard of in the denomination that has gone all the way to the Supreme Court to fight for religious liberty---but for whom?
Thank you, Friends, for all your liberating points of view!
Free again,
CoCo
can you imagine jesus christ teaching that his message was not intended for the general public?
this is exactly what the watchtower society had to say concerning the information contained in the "lamp" book!
while jesus wanted all to hear the "true gospel" the watchtower society saturates its organization in "secret" books and information.
Hello again, Atlantis,
Your comments about the robots getting dunked: I was baptized somewhat before the LAMP book's surfacing; a servant studied with me, and I'm supposing his say-so was sufficient to qualify me for baptism. At Bethel, Brother Knorr said (I mentioned this earlier in another thread) that new ones were "coming in the front door but going out the back door"---figuratively speaking. In his "announcement", or "introduction" of the LAMP book, he stated that it was meant to more fully ground new ones in the "Truth". The better you know the "Truth", the less likely you are to leave! Doesn't that seem like an absolutely absurd thought now?
Thanx again for your very helpful research on LIFE EVERLASTING. I was the one who brought up to you what I brought up to the French-speaking friends and yet, somehow, I was not brought up before the firing squad. Was I brought up properly?
Compound-Complex